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@Javier 馃悵 CR 聽asked for feedback on additional beBee improvements, in comment #31 of this post here:聽

https://it.bebee.com/producer/how-can-we-improve-bebee

I figured that my response would be too long for a condensed comment, and so, this post is designed to fit the bill, essentially comprising complaints without constraints, protestations with explanations, and suggestions with questions.

But first let me just re-iterate (from my earlier post, in imaginary consultation with Michael Bubl茅, here, https://au.bebee.com/producer/feeling-good-but-KkHt8GVikeEg) that the rebirth of beBee, albeit well overdue, has so many good new embellishments, such as:

  • We can now add photos to our comments. 聽鉁旓笍
  • For those of you who are not on a Mac operating system, you can access Emojis readily in the comments string. 聽鉁旓笍
  • There is no longer a limit to how many places we can publish to on beBee. 聽The hives may be gone but they have been replaced with groups, giving us a chance to start again with as many new groups as we can handle. 聽Set up a couple of your own and see how easy they are to administer. 聽鉁旓笍
  • Our blog now has a handy history feature, showing our posts listed year by year; a handy feature for those of us who've been around since the first splash of honey in early 2016. 聽鉁旓笍
  • We can now search our network (of followers and those we follow) by country, and now also, globally, for the geographically challenged among us. 聽鉁旓笍 (by the way, if you get lost in a region while searching, jump onto your blog to reset the address, or reset your country in the network area and it'll take you back to your home address, in my case being Aussie based, au.bebee.com">au.bebee.com).

And, of course, I forgot to add previously my appreciation for the really handy 鈥榞et lost, dunderhead鈥 troll deletion facility in the comments.

Now that's the obligatory congratulations out of the way. It's time to set up the macro mud-slinging, to sharpen up the dead meat slicer, and to call in the whinging poms. 聽

Here we go with a no holds barred, blunt as a bag full of wet mice, wacky but wistful wish list of what the Bard from Oz suggests we should be doing to get this show well and truly on the Formula 1 circuit, instead of ambling along in fits and starts with the dodgem cars in side-show alley.

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Grump # 1- Notification When We've Published

The most important thing for most writers is, I believe, to have an appreciative audience and, for many, a suitable and reliable means by which our fellow bees (in particular those we befriended) can be informed when we have completed one of our evangelically magnificent epistles, so that we can engage in a lengthy comments string, toing and froing with gay abandon (OK let's say 鈥榟appy鈥 abandon), swopping wit and banter till we kack our pants and require lavatorial leave of absence. 聽We had a great notification system prior to the changing of the honey jar, but this, sadly, has gone by the wayside. 聽We have been promised that this will be fixed, but meanwhile, it makes me wonder how any rejarred honey depository can be launched on the market without such a primary requisite, so as to still be a 鈥榮tand-out鈥 ahead of the other SM platforms. 聽

Without a lengthy and engaging comments string, there becomes little to differentiate us from the Link Tins and Defaced Books of the slap dash, thank you mam, post and run, sloppy market competition. 聽We should be doing everyting we can to encourage writers to write engaging posts and readers to engage with them, rather than speed read and run.

It's like selling honey in the supermarket by the spoonful and asking the customer to come back next week for the jar. 聽In combination with the flood of reposted old buzzes (from the disappearance of the hive system and the rush for us old 聽timer bees to deposit them in new groups) our new posts are being buried in a downward winding helix of historical (nay hysterical) oblivion, and may be carried out on an outgoing tide to be lost in an ocean of flotsam and jetsam.

What rubs salt in the wound here is that we had to cajole and suggest for quite some while in the original honey jar, prior to the notification system reaching an optimum state along with a decent delete facility (refer Grump # 2), and now it appears to be sadly in need of repair. Are we going backwards temporarily, or are the wheels falling off the McLaren?

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Grump # 2 - Ability to Delete Posts on our Wall

Hand in hand with Grump # 1 is a means by which we can control the display and content of our wall (or home page if you prefer). 聽What's the point of having an 鈥榠nfinite鈥 wall if it takes an infinite amount of time to find what we want to read on it. 聽Again, the Link Tins and Defaced Books of this world are great at losing articles we would love to read again (or go back and read properly) and we need to be able to differentiate ourselves from the rest of the cab ranks. 聽When a Ferrari comes in for service, we need to have a means of parking it in the service bay, without fear that it will disappear in a puff of smoke onto the race track. You might say that the groups are a means of holding our limousines in the service bay, but we first have to open and at least speed read a post prior to deciding whether or not to transfer it into the chosen group (service bay), and very few of us have the time to pull in all the vehicles that pass us by on a busy street, in the chance that they may require a service.

I suggest that the 鈥榙elete posts鈥 capability be brought back, so that we can manage the size of our wall. 聽After all, most of us know up front that we won't be reading any posts written in Swahili or Chaucer's Middle English, and many of us have had a barrow load of posts on COVID conjecture scribblings, Trump-like poly-tick parasites parodies, marketing magnificent marvels, 鈥楬ow to鈥 listicles, and snake charmer, love spell, or other 鈥榯oo rude to be good鈥 ad-posts.

Some blissful bees may advocate a higher order censorship (by management), but I, personally, would rather have the choice to decide for myself, with my very own 鈥榩osticide鈥 spray in the form of a delete and excrete facility. We have this now for unruly comments, thanks very much and fully appreciated @Javier 馃悵 CR , so why not for posts we don't wish to read?

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Grump # 3 - Bigger Publishing Window

This one is a no brainer for anyone who has ever tried to insert and resize photos in a blog. 聽The height of the publishing window, as currently made available to the poor frustrated ever increasingly more grumpy blogger, is tiny beyond belief. 聽

It is virtually impossible to set out illustrative photos and pictures properly, with the writer having to wait until the blog is published before seeing the finished product properly, then diving back into edit to adjust.聽

This begs the question of whether or not the developer/programer, who is responsible for this oversight, has ever blogged with happy pics? Or is he or she perhaps a blogging sadist intent on fostering frustration for the faint-hearted and fish-eyed photographer?

Come on, @Javier 馃悵 CR , please rally your wacky window winders and give us a decently sized draft screen to work in.

I'm currently forced to wind the text and diagrams up and down inside the diminutive offering, with which we have to work, that I'm starting to feel like a window cleaner operating through a set of Venetian blinds that are permanently locked down.

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Grump # 4 - More Comprehensive Editor

This one's more of a 鈥榩retty please鈥 suggestion, rather than a full blown grump, as there are ways and means of getting around the limitations of the present editor, such as by working in Word (or your alternative favourite text manipulator) and then cutting and pasting into the beBee work area as a PDF or Jpeg. 聽I do this frequently with tables, as there is no alternative on this platform.

Perhaps we could have a means of inserting tables, highlighting text, inserting text boxes/borders, etc, such as offered by many other platforms and test editors?

This is not, however, as important as the above Grumps 1 to 3, and I, for one, am perfectly happy to carry on, for now, with the present editorial limitations, although a 鈥淵es, we'll consider it down the line!鈥 would be a tasty little teaser with which to tickle the taste buds of our more serious writers on this platform.

Well I guess that's it from 鈥楧own Under鈥 for now. 聽I assume that nobody will take offence at some of my above linguistically sarcastic offerings. 聽If so, then please blame the creator of that particularly cantankerous diminutive companion to Snow White, as depicted above. 聽I've been feeling a bit under the weather lately and have been having 鈥楧isney鈥 spells. 聽馃ぃ馃槀馃ぃ

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When not researching the weird or the wonderful, the comical or the cultured, the sinful or the serious, I chase my creative side, the results of which can be seen as selected photographs of my travels on my website at:

http://ken-boddie.squarespace.com/">http://ken-boddie.squarespace.com

The author of the above, Ken Boddie, besides being a sometime poet and occasional writer, is an enthusiastic photographer, rarely leisure-travelling without his Canon, and loves to interact with other like-minded people with diverse interests.

Ken's three day work week (part time commitment) as a consulting engineer allows him to follow his photography interests, and to plan trips to an ever increasing list of countries and places of scenic beauty and cultural diversity.

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Zacharias 馃悵 Voulgaris

Zacharias 馃悵 Voulgaris

2 months ago #46

Javier 馃悵 CR

Javier 馃悵 CR

2 months ago #45

Bigger Publishing Window and More Comprehensive Editor ARE already up and running ! let me know if you think we can improve it and please try to detail in case鈥.. CC @No毛l De Castro @Alberto Landeras @Mirian Pozo @Leticia G贸mez L贸pez 

Javier 馃悵 CR

Javier 馃悵 CR

2 months ago #44

Notification When We've Published ARE ALREADY UP AND RUNNING !!! 馃槏

Louise Smith

Louise Smith

2 months ago #43

Javier 馃悵 CR

Javier 馃悵 CR

3 months ago #42

Ken Boddie

Ken Boddie

3 months ago #41

Louise Smith

Louise Smith

3 months ago #40

Zacharias 馃悵 Voulgaris

Zacharias 馃悵 Voulgaris

3 months ago #39

Zacharias 馃悵 Voulgaris

Zacharias 馃悵 Voulgaris

3 months ago #38

Louise Smith

Louise Smith

3 months ago #37

Ken Boddie

Ken Boddie

3 months ago #36

Louise Smith

Louise Smith

3 months ago #35

Louise Smith

Louise Smith

3 months ago #34

Louise Smith

Louise Smith

3 months ago #33

beBee has changed a lot @Ken Boddie 
All my posts have disappeared
All my groups have disappeared
All of my Notifications  have disappeared
Many of my followers/ing have disappeared

What's happening ?

Louise Smith

Louise Smith

3 months ago #32

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

4 months ago #31

Ken Boddie

Ken Boddie

4 months ago #30

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

4 months ago #29

Ken, I wonder why most Bees use tagged names when replying to someone's comment. I am always notified when someone has replied to my comment, even without tagging. 

As I see it, tagging has a purpose if you want to mention someone who is not the author of the post or the person who made the comment you're replying to. For me, commenting is like a conversation, and you don鈥檛 address the person you鈥檙e talking to like this, Franci 馃悵Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador. 馃槂   

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

4 months ago #28

Ken Boddie

Ken Boddie

4 months ago #27

Javier 馃悵 CR

Javier 馃悵 CR

4 months ago #26

Ken Boddie

Ken Boddie

4 months ago #25

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

4 months ago #24

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

4 months ago #23

Javier 馃悵 CR

Javier 馃悵 CR

4 months ago #22

Joyce 馃悵 Bowen Brand Ambassador @ beBee

It is virtually impossible to set out illustrative photos and pictures properly, with the writer having to wait until the blog is published before seeing the finished product properly, then diving back into edit to adjust. 鈥

 

Good one.  A preview window works nicely.  They are available with WordPress plugins.  I finally use that feature all the time before publishing.  So perhaps a preview window would be a better choice.

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

4 months ago #20

Javier 馃悵 CR

Javier 馃悵 CR

4 months ago #19

Ken Boddie

Ken Boddie

4 months ago #18

Zacharias 馃悵 Voulgaris

Zacharias 馃悵 Voulgaris

4 months ago #17

Zacharias 馃悵 Voulgaris

Zacharias 馃悵 Voulgaris

4 months ago #16

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

4 months ago #15

John Rylance

John Rylance

4 months ago #14

馃寠Great piece all valid gripes, Ken.

As to the 鈥 Disney鈥 spells, let's hope you dont find yourself in Fantasia land as the Sorcerer's Apprentice. 馃寠馃寠

Ren茅e 馃悵 Cormier

Ren茅e 馃悵 Cormier

4 months ago #13

I personally hate seeing hundreds of notifications of people's published blogs, although it is good to have some knowledge of when your favourite authors publish. @Javier 馃悵 CR I suggest an algorithm that can determine who your favourite authors are.  I'd rather get notifications about posts from people who wrote blogs I liked, commented on or shared. If I am following 700 people, then my favourites will be lost in a long list of notifications, especially if I haven't logged in for a few days. In the old versrion of beBee, I stopped following people because I didn't want to see 200 notifications. I want to know who likes, comments or shares my content or replies to my comments, and not much more than that. BeBee is configured so that you will see people's posts in your feed, no matter what. All you have to do is scroll. 

Ken Boddie

Ken Boddie

4 months ago #12

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

4 months ago #11

Ken Boddie

Ken Boddie

4 months ago #10

Zacharias 馃悵 Voulgaris

Zacharias 馃悵 Voulgaris

4 months ago #9

Interesting points. I'd add something that seems quite relevant these days as more and more people are shifting to alternative platforms like this one: a share option for Minds/MeWe/Flote/etc. Even if other platforms don't follow suit, it's an easy and organic way to drive traffic to beBee from platforms more likely to find it interesting. After all, even the more refined platform in the world is useless if it isn't promoted to its target audience. Cheers

Ken Boddie

Ken Boddie

4 months ago #8

Javier 馃悵 CR

Javier 馃悵 CR

4 months ago #7

OLE OLE OLE.  Fully agree. Many thanks 馃グ

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

Lada 馃彙 Prkic

4 months ago #6

Hi, Ken. I'll try to keep my response not too long for a condensed comment. :)

First, I also asked myself why this new version was launched without a fully functional notification system and why it is not fixed yet. It is something beBee has set apart from other social media sites. 

About your Grump#2, I suggested to Javier that we have options such as on Facebook (see image below). 

I would also like to be able to arrange my feed either chronologically (Recent) or by Top contents (contents that attracted much engagement). The beBee wall is now set up chronologically, and the rate of engagement with one's post doesn't affect how high it will appear in the feed. Moving to the top of the feed is only affected by sharing, which, in my opinion, is not good because one can share his/her post countless time regardless of the number of comments or Relevants.

I agree about the editing window, which was much better in the last version.  

I would also add to your list the ability to correct the text in comments. 

It's been a month since the new version launched. Hoping that necessary updates and fixes will bring back old members and attract new ones to beBee.

Ken Boddie

Ken Boddie

4 months ago #5

Pascal Derrien

Pascal Derrien

4 months ago #4

Thanks Ken for taking the time to do this I honestly dont have time to dedicate to this  myself as I am fiishing up one role and transitioning to a new one. The only thing I would say is that 4/5 weeks after the launch (that's a lifetime in business especially online) the improvements are barely noticeable., I suggest the previous hives/groups to be uploaded with their content or at least with their current followers (that will boost traffic) also the complete list of followers per bee to uploaded too, I have lost 80% and don't have time to rebuild profile from scratch hopefully that is planned because this does also alter traffic. Overall the fixes seem reactive, ad hoc  & emotionally driven. What are the next milestones, when et etc etc etc鈥 

Ken Boddie

Ken Boddie

4 months ago #3

Paul Walters

Paul Walters

4 months ago #2

@Ken Boddie  Well Mr Boddie the issues you raise here are more than valid. Bravo. I Am back in Indonesia in quarantine at the rather salubrious Oriental Mandarin in Jakarta. Seems that the travelling public mandated to quarantine have to hunker down in 5-star hotels. Same in Canada. It's comfortable but I fear that when this is over the 鈥榣uxury鈥 endured will have driven me to a debtors prison. However, I'll be back in Bali soon and will return to beBEE with gusto. Thanks for raising the points that have been troubling me 

Ken Boddie

Ken Boddie

4 months ago #1

You may particularly enjoy reading this one, @Lada 馃彙 Prkic , @Paul Walters , @Pascal Derrien , @John Rylance , @Robert Cormack , @Franci 馃悵Eugenia Hoffman, beBee Brand Ambassador .馃榾

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